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“What Do You Gain?”: The Core Of Eddie Hearn’s Argument Against Anthony Joshua Vs. Itauma

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Promoter Eddie Hearn states that he sees it as zero gain for Anthony Joshua in fighting the 20-year-old Moses Itauma.

He feels it’s a lose-lose situation, anyway you look at it. Itauma (13-0, 11 KOs) is too young and inexperienced for the former two-division heavyweight champion Joshua (28-4, 25 KOs) to receive any credit for beating him.

A GAINLESS PROPOSITION

On the other hand, if Joshua, 35, is beaten by Itauma, it would mean his career is “over” because he’s lost to a guy that hasn’t beaten anyone notable during his two-year pro or his entire amateur career. Itauma is being rushed to the top without fighting any of the good contenders. Fans are making a big deal about his recent first-round knockout victory over the faded British journeyman Dillian Whyte, but he wasn’t facing a quality top-tier heavyweight.

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The Young Lion’s Risks

Joseph Parker

Fabio Wardley

Daniel Dubois

Richard Torrez Jr.

Lenier Pero

Bakhodir Jalolov

Martin Bakole

Itauma could lose to one or more of those fighters, and the hype would end abruptly about him being the next King of the division. At the very least, those heavyweights would age Itauma, wear him down, and leave him a less capable fighter than the one that rolled off the assembly line in 2023.

WEIGHING THE GAIN

“I don’t really look at the Moses fight and think that’s a fight for AJ,” promoter Eddie Hearn told Sky Sports about a fight between Anthony Joshua and Moses Itauma. “There are many reasons for that. One, what do you gain out of it?”

Joshua doesn’t come out ahead beating Itauma because he’s so inexperienced. Moses has essentially fought 13 tomato cans as a pro, and there’s a ton of artificial hype created based on those wins. The fans aren’t even waiting to see him in with a real heavyweight before they anoint him as the new King of the division.

There will be a lot of sour fans if Itauma is exposed when he gets in with a good fighter for the first time. It’ll teach fans a lesson not to buy into fake hype and be tricked by fool’s gold.

Itauma’s Flaws

Itauma lacks the amateur background for people to have an accurate gauge of whether he’s good or not. He didn’t fight the cream of the crop from Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, Cuba, and the United States when he was an amateur. The one decent fighter he fought, Stylianos Roulias of Greece, had him on the run all night, acting like he was being chased by an angry junkyard dog in their fight on November 23, 2022.

Roulias showed how to give Itauma problems by attacking him nonstop, landing hard, meaningful punches, and making him feel the pain. What that fight showed is that Itauma doesn’t like to get hit, and will do anything to avoid tasting leather.

THE ZERO-SUM GAME

“Moses is a very good fighter. If you win, you’ve beaten up a 20-year-old. If you lose, you’ve lost to a 20-year-old and your career’s over. It’s a dangerous fight. I rate Moses very highly,” said Hearn.

Joshua’s career would be seen as “over” by fans if he were to be blown out by the inexperienced Itauma. Losing to Daniel Dubois by a fifth-round knockout last September is already a signal to fans that AJ’s career is done. But if Itauma were to do something similar or worse, it would destroy Joshua’s credibility and marketability with fans.

Joshua’s popularity remains high, and he can make big money in fights against Jake Paul and Tyson Fury. If that’s his angle, the purses he would get fighting Paul and Fury would be extraordinary. Fighting Itauma, the money wouldn’t be the same because he hasn’t been around long enough to build a worldwide fanbase.

Fighting in the Trenches

“I think that Moses has a lot of work to do. He’s an extraordinary talent, but we have no idea if he can tick the boxes that are required to be a true great and a true champion in the division,” Hearn said. “What’s his chin like? What’s it like when it gets really tough in the trenches?” said Hearn.

Eddie brings up some good points. We don’t know how well Itauma will perform against quality heavyweights that are throwing back at him, forcing him into a grueling fight, and applying pressure. Dillian Whyte, 37, looked terrified, not throwing any meaningful punches in his defense before being knocked out in one round by Itauma in their headliner on August 16, 2025.

Other than Whyte, Itauma has fought no one notable. Although Moses is now ranked #1 by the WBA and WBO, his opposition has been of marginal quality all the way through his 13-fight professional career.

Examining the Record

Dillian Whyte: 37

Mike Balogun: 41

Demsey McKean Mariusz Wach: 45

Ilja Mezencev Dan Garber: 40

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Turki Alalshikh has already decided what HUGE fight he wants

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Turki Alalshikh Reveals Who He Wants Moses Itauma To Fight Next After Whyte KO Win

Moses Itauma just proved that he deserves every bit of the hype he’s gotten with a first round KO win against Dillian Whyte. The 20-year-old came out sharp and started technical. However, he soon went to work and put Whyte down and out with some powerful combinations.

Whyte played some mind games, keeping Itauma waiting during his walkout. Itauma, though, ended ‘The Body Snatcher’ with sniper precision, taking his record to 13-0-0 with 11 knockouts. He looks set to run boxing’s glory division for years to come.

The world is now Itauma’s oyster following the win. It’s hard to remember such a young prospect taking over the sport like this since Mike Tyson and fans have started campaigning for a fight between him and Oleksandr Usyk.

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Turki Alalshikh wants to see Moses Itauma take on Oleksandr Usyk

The Ring has reported that Turki Alalshikh would like to see Itauma go up against Usyk next for the undisputed heavyweight title. Usyk looks set to fight Joseph Parker in his next title defense. However, Alalshikh’s stance could entirely change the landscape.

Usyk, 38, knocked out Daniel Dubois in last fight in July to become the undisputed heavyweight champion for the second time.

Fans want Moses Itauma to fight Oleksandr Usyk

Fans also want the 20-year-old Itauma to step in against the undisputed heavyweight champion immediately. One of them wrote on X (formerly Twitter):

F*** JOSEPH PARKER. GIVE ME ITAUMA VS USYK #ItaumaWhyte

– @AOUREDOO on X

@Tactician128 Daniel Dubois, Anthony Joshua, and Tyson Fury are no match for Itauma and he should face Usyk next. “Moses Itauma vs Usyk next please. This kid wipes the floor with Dubois, AJ and Fury.”

@08Kingy08 expects Itauma to beat Usyk and reign supreme atop the heavyweight division.

Maybe you lot will listen to me now!

Itauma in 1 minute TKO

This guy will Beat Usyk.

The only guy that can trouble Usyk is Itauma, and in my opinion he knocks Usyk out within 4.

Will reign for a long time this boy Itauma and I’m fucking here for ut

– @08Kingy08

@BOXINGnBBQ claimed Usyk vs Itauma would mark the passing of the torch, writing “We could have a potential passing of the torch fight one day. Itauma vs Usyk!”

@ryanmilner93 felt sorry for Whyte, claiming “Moses itauma runs boxing bring on usyk by the way i expected something like that but not that good. Actually felt sorry for whyte he looked completely washed up also and hes one of the soundest boxers I’ve ever met but Itauma is a freak.”

One cautious fan, though, thinks that it’s still too soon for Itauma to step in there with a legend like Usyk.

The Usyk fight is way too soon for Itauma.. Itauma needs to go down his own path.. Would prefer if he fought someone like Parker next and worked his way up to Usyk in a few years #WhyteItauma

One thing is for certain, a star is born and Itauma’s ceiling seemingly has no bounds.

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Tyson Fury Warns Moses Itauma Would Ruthlessly Wreck

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Tyson Fury Warns Moses Itauma Would Ruthlessly Destroy Oleksandr Usyk After Savage Win Over Dillian Whyte

Moses Itauma issued his latest statement of intent to boxing’s heavyweight division as he stopped Dillian Whyte in the first round of Saturday’s main event in Saudi Arabia; former heavyweight world champion Tyson Fury tipped the 20-year-old to beat the world’s best

Tyson Fury has backed Moses Itauma to ‘wreck’ Oleksandr Usyk and the rest of the world’s top heavyweights after the rising star’s latest statement performance.

Itauma continued his ruthless ascent through the heavyweight ranks on Saturday night as he blasted past Dillian Whyte inside one round in Saudi Arabia.

The highly-rated 20-year-old has teased the potential to become the next face of the heavyweight division, with former world champion Fury tipping him to dominate for years to come.

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“I keep getting asked about young Moses Itauma fighting Oleksandr Usyk and fighting all the other big names,” Fury said on his Instagram story.
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“My opinion is not someone who doesn’t know boxing. My opinion is someone who has been there and won every single belt. Won everything there is to win in boxing and done very well. Boxing is a young man’s game, like I told Wladimir Klitschko when he was 37. Boxing is a young man’s game. It waits for nobody. So here is the opinion, and you heard it here first.
“Moses Itauma will wreck all them all old men out of the division. Usyk, AJ, Miller. Whoever there is that’s old. Zhang, whoever else the f*** there is, Luis Ortiz. All these big names of the past.
“Even the man who took my belts. Usyk, Moses will wreck him because it’s a young man versus an old man. And an old man can’t mess with a young man.”
It remains to be seen what lies next for Itauma and the heavyweight division, particularly should Usyk vacate his WBO belt as opposed to defending against mandatory challenger Joseph Parker.

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Speaking ahead of Saturday’s main event, promoter Frank Warren suggested the winner of Itauma and Whyte could secure a shot at Parker in the event of Usyk vacating.

“What’s next?” Itauma himself said after his win over Whyte. “Honestly, I will fight anyone they put in front of me.

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“If I be completely honest, Joseph Parker [and Agit] Kabayel do deserve the shot [at Oleksandr Usyk] but I would love to take the opportunity as well.

“Chuck me in there with them lot!”

He now sits a perfect 13-0 as a professional, having stopped each of his last nine opponents inside three rounds.

Usyk is coming off a stunning knockout win over Daniel Dubois, which saw the Ukrainian pound-for-pound great become a three-time undisputed champion.

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Boxing’s elite are backing Itauma in emphatic fashion, predicting

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Boxing’s elite are backing Itauma in emphatic fashion, predicting he will unleash a relentless onslaught and deliver a brutal beating to Whyte.

If Itauma were facing the version of Dillian Whyte who once spent over 600 days as Deontay Wilder’s WBC mandatory challenger, the verdict might be far more divided. After all, plenty of questions still remain about the young Chatham southpaw.

But as Whyte approaches the twilight of his career, it’s difficult to find a respected voice in boxing who is confidently picking him to overcome Itauma.

“I even phoned Dillian and said, ‘I don’t know why you’re taking this fight — this kid is on fire right now,’” Derek Chisora told talkSPORT.

“He’s getting better and better. He’s not regressing, he’s pushing forward… and he’s only 20. Honestly, someone should call the police for attempted murder for making this fight happen. That’s not the fight to make right now. Moses is blazing hot, and when Dillian gets battered badly, we’ll have to decide who goes to prison for allowing it. There’s no light at the end of this tunnel.

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“I think [Itauma] will beat Dillian, and I think he’ll do it convincingly — no disrespect intended. Moses isn’t the light at the end of the tunnel; he is the train, and Dillian is about to run straight into it.”

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Dave Allen, who lost on points to Whyte in 2016, offered a similarly bleak assessment for the former world title challenger:

“I think Dillian Whyte has had just three fights in the last three years, and at 37 years old, I expect Itauma to win inside the distance.

“At his peak, Dillian Whyte was a world-class heavyweight, but we haven’t seen that level from him in five or six years. They’re not stupid — they wouldn’t put Itauma in with Dillian if they thought he was anywhere near his best.”

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Former cruiserweight champion Tony Bellew echoed those sentiments:

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“In my opinion, Dillian is at the end. He’s being paid a king’s ransom to go in there and be dealt with.”

Meanwhile, Martin Bakole pointed to Itauma’s style and Whyte’s recent inactivity:

“I think maybe Dillian Whyte will get knocked out. He’s been out for a long time. Like Oleksandr Usyk, Moses is a smaller heavyweight who doesn’t need to stand in front of a big guy — he’ll keep moving and pick his shots.

“But the problem is, everyone knows that after rounds four, five, or six, Dillian starts to tire and fight like someone who’s never been in the gym before. That’s when I think it’s over.”

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Itauma Sounds Alarm: “Whyte Playing the Innocent Sheep to

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Itauma Sounds Alarm: “Whyte Playing the Innocent Sheep to Trap the Dangerous Wolf”

Moses Itauma accused Dillian Whyte of “playing a sheep to catch the wolf” as he questioned his opponent’s respectful approach before Saturday’s heavyweight fight in Saudi Arabia.

At a cordial news conference in Riyadh, the Britons exchanged pleasantries, thumbs-ups and handshakes.

Veteran Whyte described the unbeaten Itauma, 20, as the future of heavyweight boxing and has been complimentary throughout fight week.

Speaking to BBC Sport on Monday, the 37-year-old said there was no weakness in his younger opponent’s game.

But Itauma’s reference to the wolf and sheep metaphor highlights a strategy where the “sheep” – a seemingly weaker or harmless player – pretends to be vulnerable in order to catch the stronger and more aggressive “wolf” off guard.

“We’re all heavyweights – any fight can end at any point. I’m not delusional,” said Itauma.

“I know what threat Dillian Whyte poses, I’m not overlooking him, I’m taking him seriously.”

Whyte was quick to dismiss the idea, though, as he insisted: “Ain’t no sheeps around here. A lot of wolves, but no sheeps.”

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‘Usyk may be the best ever, but he’s never faced

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‘Usyk may be the best ever, but he’s never faced anyone like Moses Itauma!’ 

Moses Itauma’s trainer Ben Davison says his fighter is ready for any heavyweight on the planet, and that includes Oleksandr Usyk, who he describes as ‘the best of a generation, if not the best ever at the weight class.’

Itauma, just 20 years old, faces former world title challenger Dillian Whyte this weekend. While many have speculated about Whyte’s form after a patchy run of activity, Davison stressed that Team Itauma has prepared for the toughest version possible.

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“We’d be foolish to take the fight based on his last performance and his coming in the same shape. It was never going to happen,” Davison said in Saudi Arabia.

“As he said, he’s had loads of things going on, lots of inactivity, but he’s clearly gotten himself in shape. Moses is not the type of fighter who we have to bank on catching people at the right time.

“He’s good enough to mix with any of them at any point. We’ve prepared for Dillian to turn up as the best Dillian possible, and if we hadn’t, it’s too late now.”

Whyte’s challenge
Davison pinpointed Whyte’s experience as the key threat to Itauma’s perfect record.

“It’s his experience. He’s a big, strong guy, plenty of heart, and can punch. He brings all of those things to the table. That doesn’t change, no matter what condition he shows up in,” pointed out Davison.

“People keep saying if it goes into a dog fight. But I’ve seen Moses, the young man, can fight up close as well, and you’ve got to have that in the locker.

“If you’re going to mix it up at this level, you have to have that in the locker. So if the fight goes that way, I wouldn’t be shocked for it to go still how we expect.”

Relentless in the gym
Davison was glowing about Itauma’s approach to training, hailing him as one of the sport’s most dedicated students.

“There’s nobody that I think ‘well, he’s not ready for him,’ but it’s risk versus reward. That fight might be just as tough as this fight, but that fight has got more reward to it.

“He is one of the hardest workers you’ll come across. In the gym, outside the gym, studying the sport, making sure he’s learning what we’re teaching him, session after session. That’s the real talent.”

Itauma has shown that work ethic has in the gym with scenarios designed to push the teenager to his limits.

“My job is to have him prepared if the fight goes that way. It’s alright to say ‘oh, we want it to go this way,’ but we have to be prepared if things do not go according to plan.

“I’ve brought guys in and put him in situations where it’s supposed to get tough, and he ends up backing them up, walking them down, battering them.”

The Usyk question
With Itauma being fast-tracked, the inevitable Oleksandr Usyk question arises.

“We’re solely focused on Saturday, but what I have said already is that there is not a fighter where I go, ‘I don’t like that,’” said Davison.

That includes the reigning heavyweight king.

“I just think it’s a win-win. You’re getting the chance to face the best of a generation, if not the best ever, at the weight class. And as much as Moses hasn’t shared the ring with somebody like Usyk, I truly, honestly don’t think Usyk has shared the ring with someone like Moses.”

For Davison, the path is clear: keep winning, keep learning, and be ready for when those biggest nights arrive.

Whether it’s Whyte, Usyk, or anyone in between, the message is the same: Moses Itauma is coming for them all.

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